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This post is a bit of a smorgasbord of updates including product development updates from Hornby and Hatton’s, a new announcement from Oxford Rail, Fisherton Sarum’s next outing and finally the 2017 British Model Railway Awards

Hornby SR Lord Nelson 4-6-0

The livery sample of the Hornby SR 4-6-0 Lord Nelson. Image copyright Hornby and linked directly from their Engineshed blog

Announced only earlier this month as part of the 2018 range Hornby have, via their Engineshed Blog here, shown off how much of an advanced stage in development the model is at, with the first fully decorated Engineering Prototype sample having been received. Hornby are already aware that a few slight tweaks are still needed but that is the point of such samples.
Generally the process of the development of such a model is around two years, so it demonstrates how much work had been competed before the announcement earlier this month.
To see more images and a video of the model running click here.

Hattons ex SECR P Class 0-6-0t

The full suit of the Hatton’s P Class releases. Picture copyright and courtesy of Hatton’s

Hatton’s have this week confirmed that the majority of the production run of their ex SECR P Class 0-6-0t locomotives are on their way to them and will be arriving in two batches. Product codes H4-P-003 to H4-P-012 will be arriving on Friday 9th March 2018 whilst H4-P-001 and H4-P-002 will arrive in May 2018.

Originally only announced in September last year the progress made on these models has been excellent, although the over delivery dates have been delayed slight from that first stated, I feel that Hatton’s can be excused for such a slight slip in the delivery schedule.
Having had the pleasure to handle and indeed run some of the Engineering prototypes I can safely say it will be worth the slight additional wait.

For more information and to see all the sample photos, click here.

Oxford Rail announce Rail Mounted Guns

  • OR76BOOM01 WWI Boche Buster – Camouflage and ROD2330 (Dean Goods locomotive)
  • OR76BOOM01XS WWI Boche Buster – Camouflage and ROD2330 (Dean Goods locomotive) with DCC Sound
  • OR76BOOM02 Railgun Gladiator WWII

Some might be wondering why I have mentioned this here on a Southern related blog, however I am reliably informed via a number of sources that the Gladiator rail mounted gun was for a while based on the Elham Valley Railway in Kent during the Second World War. Apparently, although it was never actually used in anger it has certainly been recorded that at least one test firing broke lots of windows in the area. See here for more details on the prototype.

The have also announced a further ex LSWR 4-4-2 Adams Radial in a presentation box as OR76AR008 25th Oxford – Southern Late Sunshine Lettering 3520. New wagons to be added to range include 5 plank mineral wagons and 12 ton tank wagons.
See the full announcement on the Oxford Rail website here.

Fisherton Sarum to appear at Milton Keynes Exhibition Sat 10th February

Making its second and possibly last appearance this year Fisherton Sarum,on Saturday 10th February, will be at the Milton Keynes Model Railway Society exhibition being held at  Stantonbury Leisure Centre, Stantonbury, Milton Keynes. MK14 6B

This popular and large show will comprise of over 40 layouts, including scales T, Z, N (including BR(s) Bodmin General), H0 (including Prospect Point from the High Wycombe and District MRS) , 00, 009, EM and G. Also attending will be over 30 traders. The show is open between 10am and 4.30pm.

Please drop by and say hello.

British Model Railway Awards for 2017 (a shameless plug)

Voting for this years British Model Railways Awards promoted on RMweb and British Railways Modelling Magazine is now live and open for voting until 31st January, so you don’t have long to vote, with the winners being announced in the Spring edition of British Railways Modelling Magazine and on RMweb.

As well as giving you the chance to vote for your favourite models and manufacturers of the year, the categories also celebrate excellence and innovation in the wider British model railway scene such as websites and exhibitions. There have of course been a number of Southern / Southern Region related models released during 2017  so I urge you to support the production of these models by choosing your best in the relevant category and voting accordingly.

I am also very humbled to see that this little corner of the blogosphere of mine has once again been nominated for the third year running, within the website of the year category, so and this is a bit of a, well a big, shameless plug, please feel free to vote for it, if you have enjoyed my ramblings over the last twelve months.

Also if like me you have received excellent service from a particular retailer such as Kernow Model Rail Centre or maybe Hatton’s please also vote accordingly.

Please make sure you vote counts to support the Southern / Southern Region models that have been produced in 2016 by voting here before the 31st January.

Here endeth the shameless plug…



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Hornby have today announced their full range for 2018 hot on the heals of yesterdays Bachmann announcement.  For this year’s range Hornby have gone to a single announcement rather than new toolings announced over the last few month either at Warley or via their Engineshed blog, possibly as a result of new broom(s) at the helm. The highlights  from a Southern Railway perspective being the brand new tooled Maunsell Lord Neslon class 4-6-0 and Maunsell 59ft Kitchen / Dining First catering vehicles. The now outdated Bachmann Lord Nelson will be easily surpassed by this new tooling that will incorporate variations to chimneys, smokeboxes, saddles and tenders. Last years H Class 0-4-0t also makes an appearance with revised tooling for the flat sided bunker.

Hornby’s Lord Nelson 851

The range also sees a welcome reintroduction of the 5Bel Brighton belle Set, in the 1960’s livery with small yellow warning panels, the model has also been updated with revised electrical connections between the cars. Also back in the range is the Devon Belle observation car.

The aim of this post is to round up the announcements that are of a Southern Railway / Southern Region interest and new for 2018, I have purposely not relisted those item previous announced and or still to actually appear. An indication of the planned release date via the Quarter system (eg [Q2] is also provided.


  • R3634 – SR 4-6-0 ‘Sir Francis Drake’ No. E851 Maunsell Lord Nelson Class in pre 1931 SR Lined Olive livery without Smoke deflectors, with snifting valves, original chimney and tender. [Q2]
  • R3635 – BR 4-6-0 ‘Lord Rodney’ No. 30863 Maunsell Lord Nelson Class in BR Brunswick Green with early crest,  Lemaitre chimney, short smokebox, piano front (Maunsell cylinders) smoke deflectors and high sided tender. [Updated]  [Q2]
  • R6303TTS – BR 4-6-0 ‘Lord Nelson’ No. 30850 Maunsell Lord Nelson Class in BR Brunswick Green with late emblem,  Lemaitre chimney, extended smokebox (Bulleid cylinders) smoke deflectors and high sided tender. DCC and TTS sound fitted [Q3]

    TTS Sound fitted 30850

  • R3617 – BR 4-6-2 ‘Elder Dempster Lines’ Rebuild Bulleid Merchant Navy Pacific number ‘35030’ in BR Brunswick Green with late emblem as she ran post rebuilding in April 1958. [Q2]
  • R3618 – BR 4-6-2 ‘Royal Observer Corps’ Rebuilt Bulleid West Country Light Pacific number 34050 in BR Brunswick Green with with late emblem as she ran post rebuilding in August 1958. [Q2]
  • R3631 – ex SECR 0-4-4T H Class number 31265, representing one of the 15 members of the class with flat side bunkers (revised tooling new for 2018), BR early crest. [Q3]
  • R3632 – BR 4-6-2 ‘East Asiatic Company’ ‘35024’ Merchant Navy (Original Air Smoothed) – BR Line Blue, early crest representing the condition she ran in between May 1949 and June 1951 when she gained Brunswick green. [Q4]

    Merchant Navy Pacific 35024 in BR Blue livery

  • R3638  – ‘Bideford’ Number 34019 Bulleid Battle of Britain Light Pacific – cut down 4500 gallon tender,  BR Green late emblem Post 1956 condition. [Q4]
  • R3507TTS – S15 Class number 30832 BR Black with early emblem DCC TTS sound. [Q2]
  • R3658 BR Class 50 Number 50033 ‘Glorious’ in Network South East livery. [Q4]

The ex SECR H Class  tank makes an appearance as an Exclusive model in the delayed Hornby Collectors Club now launched, R3648 Number 263 as preserved condition on the Bluebell Railway due July 2018. A big clue was of course her appearance on the Hornby Stand at the Warley show last month.

In addition to the Lord Nelson Hornby’s new locomotive tooling for 2018 comprises of LMS 4-6-2 Streamlined Princess Coronation Class and ex North British Railway, Holmes Class C/ LNER J36 0-6-0.

Train and Coach packs

  • R3606 – Pullman 5Bel Brighton Belle ‘Train Pack’, Unit 3053, Driving Motor Brake Parlour Third Car No. 92 and No.93.  1960s Umber and Cream, with small yellow warning panel [Updated] [Q3]
  • R4871  – Pullman 5Bel Brighton Belle ‘Coach Pack’, Unit 3053, Trailer Parlour First Kitchen ‘Gwen’, ‘Mona’ and  Trailer Parlour Third Car No. 85. 1950s Umber and Cream, early crest [Q3]


  • R4816 –  SR Maunsell Kitchen Dining First Number 7869 Diagram 2651, in SR Green. [Updated] [Q4]
  • R4817 – BR Maunsell Kitchen Dining First Number S7946S Diagram 2651, in BR(s) Green. [Q4]

    Kitchen Diner First Diagram 2556 No 7869 c1940 image copyright and courtesy M King

  • R4860 – Pulman ‘J’ Type Devon Belle Observation Car Number 13. [Q4]
  • R4717A – SR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Eight Compartment Brake Third Class Non-Corridor, SR Olive Green, Diagram 99 No. 2636 that formed set 42 with R4719A. [Q2]
  • R4718A – S R 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Six Compartment Lavatory Brake Third Coach, SR Olive Green  diagram 98 No. 2625 used as ‘loose’ stock. [Q2]
  • R4719A – SR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Six Compartment Lavatory Brake Composite Coach, SR Olive Green, Diagram 418 No. 6401 that formed set 42 with R4717A.  [Q2]
  • R4720A – SR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Nine Compartment Lavatory Third Class Coach, SR Olive Green, Diagram 31 No. 364 used as ‘loose’ stock. [Q2]
  • R4833 BR Maunsell Open Third, Number 1400 Diagram 2005 SR Olive Green . [Q4]
  • R4835 BR Maunsell Open Second, Number S1346S Diagram 2005 Crimson and Cream livery. [Q4]
  • R4836 – BR Maunsell 6 Compartment Third Class Brake Coach – BR(s)Green – High window style to diagram 2102, Number S2763S,  branded as set 230. [Q4]
  • R4838 – BR Maunsell 6 Compartment Third Class Brake Coach – BR(s)Green – High window style to diagram 2102, Number S2764S,  branded as set 230. [Q4]
  • R4839 – BR Maunsell Corridor 7 Compartment composite  Coach – BR(s)Green  – High window style to diagram 2301, Number S5673S,  part of 3 coach set 230. [Q4]
  • R4840 – BR Maunsell 4 Compartment Third Class Brake Coach – BR(s)Green – Low window style to diagram 2101, Number S3232S,  branded as set 399. [Q4]
  • R4841 – BR Maunsell 4 Compartment Third Class Brake Coach – BR(s)Green – Low window style to diagram 2101, Number S3233S,  branded as set  399. [Q4]
  • R4842 – BR Maunsell Corridor 7 Compartment composite  Coach – BR(s)Green  – Low window style to diagram 2301, Number S5145S,  part of 3 coach set 399. [Q4]
  • R4834 – BR Maunsell Corridor 8 Compartment Corridor second Coach – BR(s)Green  – High window style to diagram 2001, Number S1113S. [Q4]
  • R4837 – BR Maunsell Van B S261S in BR (S) Green. [Q4]


  • R6839 – BR ex SR Cattle truck –  Bauxite livery, No. S53904, – Maunsell diagram 1529. [Updated]  [Q2]
  • R6839A – BR ex SR Cattle truck –  Bauxite livery, No. S53908, – Maunsell diagram 1529. [Q4]
  • R6840 – BR ex SR Cattle truck –  Bauxite livery, No. S52345 – Bulleid diagram 1530. [Q3]
  • R6858 – 3 plank wagon SECR livery No. 10756 [Q3]

Hornby’s new wagon tooling for 2017 comprises of a LNER 20 ton  ‘Toad’ B and E brake van.

The full Hornby 2017 range can be found on the Hornby website here or RMweb here

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In honour of Bradley Wiggins riding triumphantly into Paris yesterday as the first British victor of the Tour De France I thought it might be appropriate to look at the Maunsell Lord Nelson class…

Lord Nelson Class number 856 “Lord St Vincent”. All my fleet have had the chimney replaced with the better proportioned Markits brass version

Introduced by Maunsell in 1926 the four cylinder 4-6-0 locomotives had  6 ft 7 in diameter driving wheels, a boiler pressure of 220 lb psi and  a tractive effort of 33500 lb that was the  the highest of any British express passenger locomotive of the time. In service the Lord Nelsons were found to be not as free steaming as the King Arthur class which remained the majority of footplate crews’ favourite. Performance of the class could be erratic and this was attributed to unfamiliarity with its firing needs. In the hands of an experienced LN crew such as from Bournemouth where the many members of the 16 strong class were often allocated exceptional performances could be obtained.

Lord Nelson Class number 862 “Lord Collingwood”. Repainted into SR black livery, first gained in 1943 but remained in until August 1948.

Bulleid improved the class by fitting Lemaître multiple jet blastpipes and larger diameter piston valves. He also introduced the final design of tender, still with 5,000 gallons capacity but with a sharper slope to the bunker floor which helped make the coal tumble forwards more easily. The sides were raised which increased the depth of the bunker.

Lord Nelson Class number 864 “Sir Martin Frobisher”. Real coal in the tender, missing lamp irons added are simple improvements. Front steps and cylinder drain pipes are still to be added.

The model was first released by Bachmann in 1992 and was a regular in their catalogue up until 2002 after which it has only appeared again in 2008 and 2009/10. Although one of the more detailed models for its time, as the bar has continually risen over the last few years with ready to run models such as the Bachmann N and Hornby’s Q1, M7, T9, Schools and N15, it is now showing its age.

A number of simple improvements can be made to the model to improve its look and update it a little:
1) Painting the rim sides of the front bogie wheels and maybe even the main driving wheel rim sides too.
2) The missing lamp irons can be added on the front and those moulded on the tender rear replaced from either thin brass or as I tend to use all the time, cut down ‘Bambi’ staples.
3) Bachman’s representation of the Bulleid wide diameter Lemaitre Chimney has not really captured the shape at all well, let alone the fact that it is solid. The Chimney is a separately fitted item and drilling down though the middle of the chimney and the lug that holds it on to the boiler with simply allow the removal and easy replacement by a brass one (available from Markits Model Railway Products) which certainly improves the look no end, I have already done this to all three of mine as per the pictures on this post. If nothing else drilling out the middle and reaffixing with glue the original Bachman chimney is an improvement on its own.
4) The loco to tender coupling is a simple plastic peg protruding from the front of the tender then hook under the back of the locomotive rear framing. This does leave quite a large gap and can sometimes allow the tender to uncouple from the loco over areas or slightly uneven track. One simple cure for both issues is to slip over the peg a short (3mm or so) length of tube cut from the top end of a biro pen insert as this increases the diameter and length of the peg therefore bring the tender closer to the locomotive and also prevents the uncoupling tendency.
5) Fabricate and fit front steps and also possibly the fitting of drain pipework from fine copper wire
6) The simple addition of real coal in to the tender to cover the moulded coal load.
7) The addition of other detailing items such as Southern engine headsignal discs, crew and fireirons etc.

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